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 Very Bad Track on The Minnesota Valley RailroadAdded: November 23, 2009 

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Locomotive Details Location/Date of Video
Kennecott Copper Corp. (more..)
EMD SD24 (more..)
East of Norwood Young America (more..)
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA (more..)
May, 1991
Locomotive No./Train ID Videographer
MNVA 904 (more..)
Bob Rivard (more..)
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Remarks: I shot this video west of Minneapolis on the TCW (ex Milwuakee Rd main). At Norwood -Young America the MNVA job will enter their own track (ex M&STL). I shot the next scene at Hamburg. I think you will see why this stretch of track is my candidate for worst track in North America! Enjoy!
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  User Comments on this Video (26)

Posted by K100DS on November 23, 2009

Looks like Penn Central or Guilford!

Posted by Jay on November 24, 2009

That is bad, but the Delta Southern Railroad still has the worst track in the US.

Posted by wi joe on November 24, 2009

Thanks again for your videos. What has happened to this line since then ?

Posted by Dan The Train Man on November 24, 2009

Holy Smokers! I've seen better tracks in Africa! This is a disaster waiting to happen. They better do something to repair that stretch or they'll have a big mess on their hands.

Posted by mikelanger on November 24, 2009

No way can track be that bad I can't beleave the train did not derail...Thats crazy!!!!

Posted by GM&ODave on November 24, 2009

Amazing how those engines did not derail. I thought I saw the front plow scrape the rail at one point. Great catch Bob!

Posted by thewiz on November 24, 2009

Good Lord! I nearly got seasick watching!

Posted by Mr. Tops on November 24, 2009

As a conductor, I would be closing my eyes and praying every time I cross that piece of trackage!

Posted by mishu88 on November 24, 2009

I wonder what are they expecting for for repairing the line??? An accident?

Posted by Douglas Hildebrandt on November 24, 2009

Great video Bob!

Posted by cabman701 on November 25, 2009

You have more guts than me. I would not have been standing that close with the condition of those tracks. That is a derailment waiting to happen.

Posted by Mike on November 28, 2009

Great shot! How does that train stay on the track?

Posted by cavranger on November 29, 2009

I was sitting here in anticipation of a derailment! Great video and I must say you have some "guts" for standing that close. Great job, Rob

Posted by c jizzle on November 29, 2009

Im surprised that six axle engines made it over that.

Posted by tphoger on November 29, 2009

I too was expecting a derailment. As a retired UP engineer I would have stopped my train before going over such a spot. I believe the only explanation as to why it did not derail was that the two rails zigged and zagged together and stayed in gauge and the cross level was not bad enough to cause a derailment at that speed. Also I believe the cars are empty. Left unrepaired there will be a derailment, probably sooner than later.

Posted by H Reardon on November 30, 2009

Views like this are absolutely amazing in that the equipment can 'usually' make it over trackage such as this. The Flexicoil and Blomberg trucks are able to negotiate just about anything. The low joints were quite a distance from you and I assume the area you were was not of the 'sinkhole' type. The camera may have been on a tripod very close, alone......other than when you turned it. I think I will watch it again.

Posted by paradoxguy on January 13, 2010

I concur, I'm very surprised the train did not derail and am surprised the train pilot even tried traversing it. Obviously the pilot is experienced and knows how to handle the bad rails, but that train could have easily slipped one wheel and sent the train sprawling.

Posted by Mike Hicks on April 21, 2010

This is the Minnesota Prairie Line (MPLI) today, and the condition is still about the same. They even haul ethanol on the line, but keep the speed below 7 mph for that.

Posted by BR549 on February 21, 2011

If you think this is bad, you should check out the Carolina Southern. Not only is the track this bad, but they have to make a run for the hill while pulling through track conditions such as this ... with loads.

Posted by MEC253 on February 23, 2011

Kind of looks like a kiddie ride at the state fair.

Posted by GREGG@Q.R on February 26, 2011

Great shot Bob,it just shows you how much axle articulation and spring travel loco trucks (or bogies as we call them down here!) have!,they would put some modern so-called suv's to shame!.Didn't they say you could draw two lines in the dirt with a stick and a Shay would follow them?!!,cheers from down under,Gregg.

Posted by Shackrat on October 29, 2011

Any idea whether trains are running on this track today or whether it is still in existance?

Posted by Steve Ward on January 11, 2013

What looks like the track is warping side to side, has to be warping up and down. If the width of the track varied that much, the train would derail. Hopefully that has been fixed, for it is a lawsuit just waiting to happen.

Posted by Sub Atomic Genius on January 18, 2013

looks just like a branch line section of Columbus & Greenville, a few miles south of Clarksdale, MS... the rails are TRASHED, yet still used...

Posted by Eric Gottlieb on December 24, 2013

I wonder what their insurance company would say if they saw this video. Claim Denied!

Posted by Guest on January 13, 2014

This segment of the line today is operated by the Minnesota Prairie Line and is 25 mph mostly ribbon rail. They have upgraded the line from Norwood to Winthrop, MN

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